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For information on the 2019 defamation attempt of Zhenevere, please see HERE
Ashliegh Shepherd — Student
January, 2025
I have been blessed to study with Zhenevere since January 2023, first as a student in the year long depth study Soma and Civilization, and thereafter as a student in any class I could possibly attend both online and in-person. The magnitude and depth of Zhenevere’s teaching is unlike any I have ever experienced, and I have had some good teachers along the way. I can absolutely say that my life, my way of seeing and feeling, my way of moving and listening, my way of speaking and relating, has been deepened, expanded, and transformed fundamentally in these years of study with Zhenevere and I am profoundly grateful for the nuance, the subtlety, the depth at which I am encountering life in every way, feeling, thinking, moving, sensing, being, speaking, relating. Furthermore, as a teacher of early childhood as well as movement/dance, my students are benefiting tremendously from the rigor and sensitivity of Zhenevere’s work and how it has shaped me. I am forever grateful and wish for the world to be shaken awake by such life-giving, sensitive, beautiful and demanding teaching.
Alnoor Ladha — Co-founder of Brave Earth (Tierra Valiente): Center for Applied Cultural Transition
August, 2024
I have been studying with Zhenevere for the past 4 years. I invited Zhenevere to teach at our center in Costa Rica in 2023. We were honored to experience "Soma and Civilization" in person. Not only did we witness the highest levels of integrity, discernment, kindness and mastery, but the core group of participants unanimously agreed that Zhenevere was the most profound facilitator of group process that any of us had ever experienced. I personally decided not to teach for at least a year until I felt that I could start to approach her level of pedagogical sensibility and and metaphysical prowess.
Through direct experience, I know who Zhenevere is, I understand why jealousy and projection is directed at her, I recognize it does not benefit the master narrative to have her teachings "popularized," but I also know the enormous benefit students and participants receive from her presence, wisdom and embodiment. The more people that can engage with Zhenevere's praxis, the more the world will resemble the possibilities of emancipatory futures we know are possible.
Jonathan Butterell - Theatre and Film Director.
July, 2024
Zhenevere’s teaching and practice feels vitally important to me. As a storyteller who is looking at finding commonality in a fractious world, I have turned to Zhenevere as a teacher who profoundly expresses with clarity and deepest sensitivity a non dualistic approach to knowledge and learning. Her clases are awakenings. Awakenings to ancient teachings, to teachings that are grounded in classical philosophical thinking and yet feel immediate, accessible and applicable to our world today.
She does this with strength, openness, kindness and with a joyful wit; listening with careful sensitivity to all voices that come to her class.
Every major teaching institution across the world should experience all Zhenevere has to offer. - There are also a few leaders and decision makers who might benefit from a class or two :)
Sally Gottlieb
August, 2024
Studying with Zhenevere has truly been one of the greatest gifts for my heart, mind and soul. Not only is her body of work nothing short of life saving for anyone who deeply and sincerely wishes to live a full and rich human life, but Zhenevere herself is a teacher of utmost integrity, humility, honesty and care.
In her presence, I always feel an atmosphere of the deepest respect for the sovereignty, humanity and integrity of each individual in the space, alongside a fierce courage to transmit her teachings in their utmost essence. Teachings Zhenevere has most clearly spent a lifetime cultivating from a place of deep devotion and an unquenchable quest for wholeness and beauty.
These teachings, which are inseparable from Zhenevere’s being, have been life giving and life saving for myself, and yet, I witness the courage and accountability this work asks me to hold within myself. As this work is deeply transformational, it can most definitely be unsettling, as it invites each of us as students to come into contact with our deepest nature, which will always inevitably shine a light upon the ways we must change our lives.
And yet, amidst this beautiful confrontation, Zhenevere is a gentle guide and deeply vulnerable friend on this journey of transfiguration, softly welcoming each of us to become more deeply alive in the fullness of our humanity.
Sadly, as it is with all teachers throughout history who are radically devoted to truth and beauty, these beings often stand adjacent to dominant culture, which naturally makes our most treasured teachers (who we so desperately need) too disruptive to the status quo, and therefore, often very unpopular (often to the point of attack and defamation).
I feel an immense sadness imagining all of the beings whose lives would be so necessarily touched by this work, to miss out on the gift of learning with Zheverere, due to the ripples of hate and attack that are so rampant in our world today. And yet, despite all odds, Zhenevere continues to show up to her students with fierce love and passion, for which, I am most deeply grateful.
Niyonu Spann - Student; Friend; Colleague
August, 2024
My name is Niyonu Spann, and I am a 68-year-old black woman, writer, organization development practitioner, singer-songwriter, and grateful mother of four sons. I am a committed teacher and student of philosophies, artistic expression, and practices that increase individual and collective well-being.
During the challenging months of COVID isolation, I had the privilege of studying with Zhenevere Sophia Dao. Each week, alongside approximately 80 participants from around the globe, I engaged in what Zhenevere called Mythosomatic Movement. These sessions opened the most sensual, spiritual, and liberating pathways I have ever experienced. The healing I encountered was profound—intense heat and cool, rushing waters released deep-seated trauma from my life and, I believe, from my ancestral lineage. This experience was a testament to the power of body wisdom.
When I first encountered the accusations against Zhenevere, I was overwhelmed with emotion, fearing I might lose a teacher who had profoundly impacted my soul’s journey. However, I chose to delve deeper. I researched the claims, spoke with fellow students, and reflected on the clarity and compassion Zhenevere consistently demonstrated in establishing boundaries during classes. Her commitment to creating a safe space allowed us to embrace our healing journeys and reclaim our power.
As I examined the accusations, they did not resonate with my truth as a survivor of sexual abuse and an ally to others. They simply did not align with the woman and teacher I had come to know and respect in Zhenevere.
I was later thrilled to invite Zhenevere to co-teach with me at the Kripalu Center for Yoga and Health, where I had previously offered courses. However, when our course was promoted, defamation against Zhenevere was shared with the Kripalu organizers. I stood firm in my understanding of the truth and communicated this to Kripalu. The Kripalu administration, who knew absolutely nothing of Zhenevere personally, chose to adhere to these utterly anonymous accusations rather than to trust me, and ultimately decided to disallow the course to continue if I kept Zhenevere as my co-teacher. I made it clear: “If Zhenevere must go, so must I.” I found an alternative venue, and our participants enjoyed the transformative teachings of Zhenevere alongside my own.
Since then, I have continued to study with Zhenevere and invite Zhenevere as a guest facilitator, including for an upcoming series in March 2025. My journey with her has been nothing short of extraordinary, and I am grateful for the wisdom and healing she brings to my life, our community, and the world.
Sunny Smyth - 14 Year Student of Zhenevere's; Teacher; Friend
August, 2024
I have studied intensively with Zhenevere for fourteen years, literally attending every single class she offered including Mythosomatics, Sexuality, Yoga, and Post-Daoist and Neo-Romantic Philosophy, and excepting only the martial arts classes, logging, in total, over 2,000 hours of class time, as well as consistently teaching this work for the past ten years.
I am writing because I know Zhenevere. I have studied with her more than any other human being on this earth. I have watched her in ten-thousand interactions with all manner of students. And I have come to understand her importance as a teacher and a being because she poses this most fundamental question, “What was the human for, and what is the purpose of our woundability?”
Even though she acknowledges the failure of humanity to live up to our promise, she wholeheartedly affirms life. She offers radical perspectives on that essential question, a question which blossoms in her philosophy into countless other questions that bear intensely on our existence. For instance, what might it look like to have a more wholesome relationship to technology; to live both inside and outside of cultural conditioning; to reimagine power as independent from leverage or coercion; to recover our imagination, empathy, emotion, sensation and sensitivity as forms of intelligence? And what would culture and existence on the whole be if we understood that Eros, as Zhenevere defines it, is the most pure and most powerful force of life itself? If Eros was the longing to belong rather than the need to conquer? For Zhenevere defines Eros as the intense mutual need of all living things and the tenderness and risk that this need engenders and instigates.
These conceptions and countless others like them have utterly changed and redirected the lives of hundreds if not thousands of students.
I write this second testimonial, four years after my first one, to express my shock, sorrow and anger that one or two terribly distorted and wounded individuals, who wish to defame Zhenevere for inscrutable reasons, continue to troll the internet for any engagement that Zhenevere has been invited to participate in. They then contact the producers of these events in order to relay vicious lies, intending to have Zhenevere disinvited, when it was her integrity and the scope and beauty of Zhenevere’s work that inspired them to invite her to their platforms in the first place. The fact of the persistence of these few people’s evil vindictiveness in contradistinction to Zhenevere’s actual innocence regarding their unhinged accusations is heartbreaking to someone such as myself—and I know I speak for hundreds of others—who has always, in every single class, in every venue or environment, witnessed the absolute integrity of her comportment.
Her passion for teaching and the care she expresses for the well-being of her students never, ever devolves into even the slightest feeling of sexual desire for ANY of her students (despite, and I say this with fourteen years of seniority and observation, the many, many who might have wished precisely for that kind of attention). Zhenevere’s sexual energy was and is ALWAYS reserved for her long-term private, intimate relationships.
I do believe that the culture of the “me too” movement, which has been so terribly important in terms of the world hearing the stories of victims of abuse and taking account, has also unfortunately caused the pendulum to swing to a very dangerous, equally injurious place where almost any accusation, even from unaccountable, anonymous people of cruel and bitter intent, is believed.
Sometimes, these few sick individuals, astonishingly, do succeed with their lies to sow doubt in the minds of the organizations of spiritual or cultural think tanks who have invited her to lecture or present. I don’t believe they doubt Zhenevere, for Zhenevere’s essence is undeniable to anyone moved by her being and philosophy. But they doubt themselves.
So I am writing to call these organizations to account, and to express my profound distress, as a sincere seeker of truth, that these so-called spiritual organizations that cancel her don’t have enough grit, self-awareness, and trust in their own experience of Zhenevere to be activist warriors, and to stand up for what is clearly the truth of Zhenevere’s impeccability. It is shameful that even after knowing her, hosting her, learning from her, even befriending her—even after reading Zhenevere’s poignant and lucid explanation regarding the few individuals responsible for her defamation, that they still do not have the courage to stand up for their own, and others’ need of Zhenevere’s being and teaching.
Is this the state of the world? Is it their inability to have honest, challenging conversations with members of their audience who might come across an anonymous website built on falsehoods? Or is it their fear of losing income that prevents them from actually walking their transformational talk? Or is it a larger, more ubiquitous weakness in the modern soul of humanity born from living in a sick culture that is the root cause of this tragedy?
I am writing this with the hope that any future producer of an event who has been truly inspired by Zhenevere’s wisdom is bolstered by my and others’ words. I hope that these organizations and persons will be empowered to withstand the outlandish, vague, and spurious attacks. Why do I feel this is so urgently necessary? Because the wisdom that Zhenevere offers the world is desperately needed at this time. I know firsthand the profound impact she has had on my life. And I have personally heard hundreds of individuals spontaneously testify to the very same thing, namely that her teachings have literally saved them from feeling completely alone and misunderstood in this world, and therefore saved them from plunging into the depths of despair.
So I am writing this with a passionate outcry to all of Zhenevere’s students who have benefitted so enormously from her teachings (and they number in the thousands). I am asking them to not merely stand by and shake their heads in horrified disbelief at the craziness that has occurred, the soiling and distorting of something so deeply pure, but that they also take the time to add their voices to this page. If we join together en masse to bravely support what is good and reliable in this world, we perpetuate even the potential for goodness and reliability. That is the fulcrum upon which we all stand.
One of the many paradoxes within this situation on the whole is that Zhenevere is a living testament to her own teachings on how suffering and grief is necessary and transformational in order to live a soulful life. I am brought to tears by the following words on her website because I have personally and repeatedly witnessed her living them:
“My love for these defaming individuals endures. For I did not—and never will—allow their cruelty to redefine my soul and my care, nor the history of love. The only way to negotiate evil without mimicking it—for the intent to cause great harm without accountability is evil—is to absorb it, alchemize it, and refuse its constitution. Their cruelty has birthed me into my fate. Everything is more terribly profound, more precious, and more beautiful because of them. And I am, still and eternally, heartbroken and thankful.”
Lindsey Marie Stormo - Student
August, 2024
All My Relations: Zhenevere Sophia Dao’s inspiring teaching, breadth of work, mythosomatic guidance and philosophic facilitation has been one of the top most integrous experiences of safety in my life. While studying with her consistently for the past four years, I have not once felt her waver from the reliability of her moral compass.
She has earned my long term trust and I find the safety I receive in her personhood to be profoundly healing and life-affirming. I recommend her teaching, facilitation and cultural collaboration with all my heart.
Within this community of students who have practiced with her long term, there is clear evidence in these testimonials that Zhenevere is innocent and has not harmed students, and that those accusations are fueled by a few distorted individuals, with horrifying intentions, bent on personal revenge. Within these letters of testimonial honesty, there is a powerful uprising in students such as myself, protecting the very deep morality of Zhenevere's personal integrity, teaching, and work. Her voice, perspectives and work in the world are necessary and needed, in the front row of global evolution - academic and artistic. This cannot be overstated.
Given the unscrupulous, vengeful, and insidious ways of these few defamers, I invite anyone sincerely in pursuit of understanding to contact me should they wish to confirm my stance, or to ask me questions.
Studying with Zhenevere has re-saved my life, in ways only poems had previously. She is undoubtedly worthy of your generosity of spirit, study and attuned time.
True to my word. LMS
Bobbi Esmark - Student; Taiji & Qigong Teacher
August, 2024
Gentle People:
I write this testimonial to bolster anyone’s resolve should there be any complaints about Zhenevere that may arise due to publicity relating to any event, colloquium, podcast, or seminar in which she is featured or presiding. I want to believe that anyone who is interested in the depth and power of Zhenevere’s work, and who has read or heard the ANONYMOUS false claims and attempts to defame her, would be wise and resolute—that they would question the veracity of those who would choose such a coward’s path of personal vengeance.
Let me tell you why I believe in Zhenevere’s work, and why I feel her teachings are so important.
I came to my first class with Zhenevere having studied taiji and qigong for more than twenty-five years, and having taught these arts for eleven years. I am not an acolyte—nor does Zhenevere want one. She is not a guru, she desires no homage, proscribes no path. I am an elder, Zhenevere’s mother’s generation, and as such, one might say, I’ve been around the block a few times. Zhenevere’s original thinking, based on vast study of taoist philosophy and practice of Chinese martial arts, was a thrilling revelation to me. What struck most was her intelligence, and then her humor—wise, genuine and warm. I felt my prior years of study and practice were a well-hoed and seeded field for her teachings that were fresh water and sunshine, stimulating strong and fruitful growth, like an original phylum within the kingdom of Chinese martial arts.
Beyond (and within) the martial, she has developed her own philosophy and her own forms, which she has coined, respectively, "Post-Daoism" and "Neo- Romanticism, and "Mythosomatics," a large body of mythopoetic movement art that transcends any genre. She is extraordinarily articulate in transmitting the potential for the use of these elements to reinforce and nourish those who long for connection to themselves, others, and the challenging world in which we live.
For five years I studied with Zhenevere weekly, including two major intensives. Over the years I saw her teachings become an increasingly rich mosaic of offerings that spark thought, action, self-awareness and creativity.
Zhenevere offers no panacea. She has expressive power and poetry, focused intention and attention, applied history and scholarship, and a deep commitment to care. She creates a space where those desiring to discover their essence can do so constructively with others also engaged in learning, understanding and becoming who they were meant to be. It can be stunning. It is always illuminating.
I want to believe that Zhenevere can share her extraordinary brilliance in any chosen or offered venue with the many who seek an understanding of themselves, and who desire to find their way through this world with joy, love, beauty and strength. I want that experience for others.
And, yes, I want it for Zhenevere, too, who, despite the self-possession of her vast resources that makes her sometimes seem inviolable and unattainable, is, in fact, deeply human.
Kira - Student
August, 2024
Zhenevere's essence is intertwined with her work, both of which are undeniably profound and therefore "dangerous"—dangerous in the way that all who challenge the status quo must be. Like those before her, she has faced targeting and persecution, yet remains steadfast in her unwavering commitment to infusing every space with courage.
She embodies philosophy and poetry, daring us to be true to our most authentic selves. Her "danger" lies in her refusal to provide a blueprint for freedom, recognizing that no one can dictate what freedom is for each one of us, nor what we should do with it.
Zhenevere’s charisma is free of manipulation; she challenges us to uncover the deepest expression of our essence, to become our own unique form of greatness. I’m neither a disciple nor a skeptic, just someone who finds her approach refreshingly free of dogma, New Age shenanigans, and cult-like behavior.
I’m reliably drawn to her presence, which reminds me what it’s like to be among truly sane people.
Ashley Hansen - Student; Theater Teacher
July, 2024
Poet. Scholar. Warrior. Phoenix. The breadth and depth of Zhenevere Sophia Dao’s teachings (movement and lecture, dialogues and dramatic works) are truly staggering. Her integrity, generosity, sensitivity, and skill infuse and inform each deeply-considered offering. Her eloquent and evocative use of language has brought me to tears. Tears because with precision and poetic sensibility she has languaged an interior experience . Imagine being met in the places you think no one else knows. Whether reflecting on paradox, transformation, beauty, death, sensuality, Zhenevere speaks a mother tongue of soul. Time moves differently in her presence. She is one of those remarkably rare beings who has sacrificed the comfort of assimilation for the courage of authenticity. Trustworthy, tender, and terribly important, if you are seeking a lifeline in an ocean of distraction and delusion, Zhenevere and her work are buoys and a majestic, island beach.
Mica Gillard - Student
July, 2024
My name is Mica Gillard. I am writing this as a student and friend of Zhenevere’s. At the time that I write this testimonial, it is midsummer of 2024, and I have been a student of Zhenevere’s for, I think, nearly three years now. I had been learning with Zhenevere online for at least a year and a half before I worked with her in person in Costa Rica and New Mexico last year. This means (amongst other things), that I have only ever been a student of Zhenevere’s since the defamation attempt, and have slowly unravelled a little of what this has meant for her and her student body these past years. It is a horrible thing, this attempt to defame someone - anyone. I am also angry and tired, because this project hurts everyone involved, and is the opposite of healing. The only thing that this world needs is healing, not more violence, and yet sometimes we end up perpetuating violence because of our own woundedness.
I can only pray that those wounded ones who have sought to project their wounds outwards onto someone who had only their best interests at heart, may be healed from the traumas that caused them to lie about someone they used to love. I don’t want to say much more about “the defamers” because frankly they don’t need any more attention, and as I said, I was not involved with Zhenevere or the Moga Dao institute when this was all going down. Therefore, I feel it isn’t necessarily my place to comment further on these events.
What I do feel able to speak to with clarity, is Zhenevere herself, her character and her role as teacher and friend in my life. I had very little doubt about Zhenevere before I met her in person, and any doubt that she could in any way be capable of the claims made by these few unfortunate people were erased entirely upon meeting her. The idea that Zhenevere would waste her time by pursuing students in an unprofessional and inappropriate way frankly annoys me.
Zhenevere is, amongst many other things, clearly too busy living a beautiful and challenging life, to pursue such ignoble actions (as claimed by said defamers). It is tiresome to be involved in a scenario where I feel I must “pick a side”, because ultimately any situation where division has occurred represents a lack of love and compassion, a contraction, and a failure to recognise the wholeness and unity of all things.
Nevertheless, conflicts do arise, and I must stand to defend the one whom I know to be trustworthy. It is quite a big deal for me to call anyone trustworthy. I am someone who is deeply traumatized and sometimes struggles to feel that I can trust any human beings at all. I can also recognise that my life story could easily make me form an “unhealthy attachment” to Zhenevere in the very way that the defamers themselves have done. I could project all my desires and dreams of healing onto Zhenevere, and get angry and upset that she would not fulfil them. I also know that this is not fair, or reasonable. Zhenevere is a truthful and powerful woman, and unfortunately this defamation has followed the age-old pattern of the witch hunt attitude: If I cannot have you, then I will destroy you. The sad thing is that attempting to destroy someone, or something, only destroys the perpetrator. We can see this in society today on a grand and miniscule scale: We are destroying the earth, and certain groups of its inhabitants, and in doing so, are destroying our own humanity. The gravity of these situations is immense, and Zhenevere holds all of this very close. Zhenevere’s teachings have the profound effect to heal deep wounds because they have emerged from a place of deep sensitivity, solitude, wisdom, open-heartedness and open-mindedness. I have never met someone quite like her. She has woven together so many threads present in the world to create an expansive oeuvre of work ranging from written poetry, to various movement forms, to an entire philosophy, to horsewomanship and being a farrier, and the list goes on. I also see how part of the challenge for certain people is Zhenevre’s ability to be so deeply expansive and truthful, when many people may hold their tongue for fear of coming across “too strong” or of pushing someone away. She also possesses such a deep trust in humans and humanity, despite her own woundedness. She keeps her heart open, her whole being radiates optimism and hope for humanity. We may then see Zhenevere’s own truthfulness and trust as, in a sense, her achilles heel. The attitude of the defamers to target this place of vulnerability feels to be part of another age-old pattern: You represent a truth that threatens my sense of self, and so I will annihilate you. As a trans person myself, I experience the violence of these attitudes frequently in macro and micro ways. And she (/we) must, and can only, continue to stay open and loving and hopeful, for hope and hopeful actions are often all we can cling to in these critical times for humanity itself. I remember reading through some of the testimonials on Zheneve’s website and wondering who these people were and how they could advocate so strongly and passionately for someone. I now understand why. Zhenevere has given hope to so many of her students for a better world, a better state of humanity, a better life, a deeper love - the list goes on. She has given so many of us tools to dismantle violence and rebuild it into love. The flowering punch exercise for example amongst thousands of other movements, is so potent a force of healing. This exercise is done either “solo”, or with a partner. There is not usually any touch at all involved, and yet the profundity! I have witnessed people moved to tears by this exercise. This exercise alone has brought such potent healing, more than I have witnessed before within a larger group of humans working together. And how does healing happen? It happens when you can drop in and trust the one guiding you. The workshops in Costa Rica and New Mexico had such a strong foundation of trust and mutual respect. There was such caution around touch. The consent was impeccable. Unlike so many of the troubling stories I have heard about sexual misconduct that happens all across the world in so-called “sacred” and “spiritual” spaces - usually perpetrated by cis men in positions of diseased power, there was nothing but a sense of deep unity, trust, affection and truly beautiful connection between the students, Zhenevere, and the lands upon which we resided and “worked”. I have memories from these experiences that will “feed me” for a lifetime, such was the nourishment. Although I could, and willingly will say more, for now this feels to be enough. I will just sandwich this piece with a prayer for all those who are suffering under the veils of illusion. It is such a shame that true power is so threatening and unpalatable to so many people. I pray that all beings may be liberated from the suffering caused by separation. I pray that all beings may receive the healing in this lifetime that they need in order to be fulfilled and free from violent persecution. I long for liberation.
Diane Chase - Student since 1995
July, 2024
One of the rarest occasions in a person’s lifetime is to encounter brilliance, compassion, humor, wisdom, as well as deepest trust and admiration in another person. This is the case with my relationship with Zhenevere Sophia Dao with whom I have had the privilege of studying since 1995 when I met her as a teacher of Qigong and Tai Chi in Taos, NM. Ever since those beginning days of her teaching career, when I knew her as Daniel, I continue to be inspired by her creative genius. Those many years of study and training are an essential part of what buoys my life’s waves, my awareness and well-being. I attest and stand by my experience of Zhenevere as the most trustworthy and forthright of persons, and I know her teachings, speech, actions and demeanor to be of the highest caliber of integrity. Her presence is very magnetic and can fill a room or an auditorium with her eloquence and creativity and philosophical discourses and sharing of personal, meaningful life experiences. I have witnessed the evolution of this amazing person in so many ways and always, always, I know her to inspire so many people over the years with her deeply rooted teachings, instilling of trust, safety and compassion and understandings of the enormity of what it means to be human.
Sophie Burns - Student
July, 2024
Zhenevere’s teachings and transmissions have a unique ability to both call me forth to rise in action and responsibility and to tenderly reach back to the most hidden parts of myself, swaddling them in hope and the sweet nectars of truth. I have encountered few embodiments, teachers, orators, or stewards of life of the caliber that Zhenevere represents, and she so generously shares herself. It is an honor to study with her, to share space with her, to walk this earth knowing she too is here. Knowing she too feels the immensities of this life and participates in the romance of being is inarticulably reassuring.
Ursala - Student
July, 2024
Zhenevere is a singularly extraordinary human being. It is a fact that I am able to even attempt to live in this world authentically because of continual recourse to her philosophy and mythosomatic forms. I believe with all my heart that the world needs this work, but for its medicine to integrate, the eros of pedagogy must be taken seriously. In my experience, commitment to this work is transformational for the student who takes responsibility for the inspiration they feel surrounding it. Zhenevere teaches on how crucial this responsibility is over and over again and in her, the desire I possess for my life to be my own finds a true guide. Over the past three years, this recognition has brought me relief, joy and endless humility. I am most grateful for and to her.
Danielle Stech-Homsy - Student
July, 2024
Zhenevere Sophia Dao is an essential luminary is these fundamentally fractured times, shining her very clear light on an experience we all have, but can rarely name with confidence - the internal separation of our being. She works tirelessly and in specificity with a true gift for language and mytho-poetic movement forms, to teach a way of healing this core rift, brought on by the guiding themes, and failures, of our civilization. She marries a deep love of western romantic tradition with decades of study in Taoist practice and philosophy, but what results is beyond tradition, it is the recognition of human inheritance itself and the technical means to engage with it. With tender openness and an ever mindful approach to her diverse student body, Zhenevere guides without contrivance or condesension, sharing from personal experience and enabling her ideas to find their own rootedness in one’s own experience. The great potential of her teachings is the retrieval of something essential, but almost forgotten: the miracle - and great task - of being a human in form.
Sherry Lewis - Student
July, 2024
As a Licensed Professional Counselor, working in the field for over 30 years, I've also studied with Zhenevere since 2019. I've found her work not only consistent, but insightful and leading edge with other training including trauma, nervous system healing, grief, shame and much more. Zhenevere takes any of these subjects to a profound depth that is uncommon. In my interactions and observations she has been exquisitely respectful, kind and ethical. Her work is a voice for sanity in this crazy world.
Kati Standefer - Student
April, 2023
The practices channeled and refined by Zhenevere, and the philosophies developed and expressed by her, are essential medicine for the culture and crises we are collectively living through. They have been transformative in my own life whenever I am brave enough to engage with them.
I have read the defamation testimonials. As a devoted student specifically of the Eros work between 2019 and 2021, I was in some of the rooms written about. I can state with clarity and peace that NEVER did the environment feel exploitative or unsafe or salacious. I formerly worked as a sexual health educator and currently help people write stories of trauma, so I have a tight radar for situations of disempowerment or mistreatment of this kind. Instead, our eros intensives felt warm, vulnerable, connective like I'd rarely experienced while also challenging in the way of a tonifying bitter medicine (I did a lot of necessary crying--and laughing--and uncomfortable reckoning--in those rooms). Zhenevere taught us to see each other and ourselves more truly and provided a space to encounter ourselves, others, and the world through exercises that were embodied but explicitly consensual and regulated. We were reclaiming forms of connection to self, community, and world that have been stripped away by the current hegemonies of technology, industrialism, religion, and capitalism that we live within. Zhenevere set clear boundaries for how we could learn the eros practices in ways that felt safe, but her eros work in particular is fundamentally countercultural in a way that leaves her open to attack. (Indeed, that is why it is so important.) We were all encouraged to be "erotic vigilantes"-- standing up for the erotic in our own lives in all ways, including through mini-interactions with others in which we responded to what was beautiful in them without sexual/romantic intent, helping them feel seen, lit up, more likely to live bravely according to alignment with their souls. (How transformed would the world be if we all SAW each other and saw each other as BEAUTIFUL without it having to fit into that narrow frame? What would it be like to move through the world treated as gorgeous not for some cultivated identity but because of the truth of how we are made?) It is this type of energy--looking like flirting or sexual interest but actually quite different--that I suspect played a role in the defamer's thinking Zhenevere was interested in them, when she was explicit about a lack of interest of this type. What a fundamental misunderstanding of the work and our teacher. And what a lack of accountability for the initial defamer's personal history that created that frame through which they were interpreting their experiences.
When I first heard of the defamations, I took time to look through the accusations and truly consider whether there was something important I was missing. It is important to me to "believe survivors" and question leadership. Zhen and Eve (who had separately become a mentor to me) spent hours on the phone answering my questions. I searched my own body for intuition and insight. Ultimately, I find the testimonials to have no standing. They are poorly written, malicious in tone, and very flimsy to anyone actually involved. Someone from this group of defamers approached me with the link initially, expressing no concern for my well-being in still studying at MogaDao (as you might imagine of someone who is trying to coordinate "victims") and instead acting with a kind of arrogant delight at "spreading the word." I hadn't found this individual very compelling when I knew them in person in class and ultimately decided their opinion wasn't to be trusted. While Zhenevere is no more perfect than the rest of us, in what I have seen she has not hidden from whatever points of accountability are hers to own in the handling of situations and dynamics.
I also want to note that when I stepped away from these practices for two years for complicated financial and logistical reasons, no one came after me or told me bad things were going to happen to me or spoke poorly of me in any way I have heard, as would be true of a cult.
As someone who moved to Santa Fe in part to study more deeply with Zhenevere and this practice community, I am still mourning the in-person, offline, non-recorded experiences that were so pivotal to my formation. These defamers have worked to cage the exact medicine that our world needs most, and it is hard to imagine how they could do so after taking in the lessons of liberation that are so core to Zhenevere's work. But they have. I am grateful the work persists anyway, even in changed form.
Willa Roberts - Zhenevere's Partner
August, 2024
My name is Willa Roberts, and I am Zhenevere’s partner of three years, and friend and collaborator for 5. I write this follow-up testimonial in the summer of 2024. It has been a year and a half since I wrote my first testimonial (which remains available on this page, for those who are interested), describing in detail the events of Zhenevere’s defamation. Particularly, it describes the hateful, vengeful assault—both physical and verbal—on Zhenevere by her ex-partner when they discovered that, four months after the two of them had thoroughly and permanently broken up, Zhenevere and I had begun to see each other. (When I use the term, "ex-partner," I am referring to Zhenevere's recent ex-partner, not Zhenever's prior ex-partner who remains Zhenevere's friend).
After the initial attack, this person then essentially re-launched an ailing campaign to slander Zhenevere’s reputation, originally created by a former student who was seeking revenge, after Zhenevere made it clear that this student had no chance of having a sexual relationship with her. I must admit that I cringe again as I describe these sordid melodramas. For Zhenevere’s dignity, purity of heart, and character represent an absolute sustenance to me in a world of superficiality, irresponsibility, manipulation, misguided power-plays, and weakness. The anonymous defamation campaign is in severely stark contrast to every aspect of Zhenevere’s being, and to the life that I know with her.
My life with Zhenevere is saturated with beauty, immensity, and indescribably harmonious love. I need nothing more. Our personal life—our love and friendship—has only been fortified and tonified by her ex’s hateful attacks. We flourish; we have not been destroyed. Likewise, Zhenevere has not been canceled. Lies have an expiration date, and truth endures. Zhenevere has a robust student body that has experienced, processed, and emerged stronger for the horrific lies. Those studying with her are more sincere, and of the highest and most conscientious character. As a result, they are more prepared for the benevolent radicality of Zhenevere’s philosophy, and are empowered to find sustenance and strength in a world largely inhospitable to truth and beauty. And we are thankful for such human fortitude. For I can say with fierce emphasis that the accusations of Zhenevere’s defamation are a crime against humanity, a crime against nature.
But I revisit this topic because the sustained malevolence of Zhenevere’s ex, and a few unfortunate and distorted allies of their nature, continue to attempt to hurt the culture of care, intelligence, beauty, and bravery that accrues around Zhenevere everywhere she presents, teaches, or creates. And it is strangers, who might profoundly benefit from Zhenevere’s existential and spiritual support via her teachings and philosophies, who suffer most at this point, as a result of the actions of this person.
As detailed in my original testimonial, I witnessed firsthand—I was there—the unmitigated assault by Zhenevere’s ex on her, both physically—a lunging punch to her groin after they (her ex) hid and trespassed on Zhenevere’s property in the early morning—and then verbally, for many, many hours. The nature of the verbal abuse on Zhenevere was oriented around a brutal transphobia (a better term would be “trans-hatred”) in which they screamed, over and over, statements like: “I can’t wait to watch you die a shriveled old man in prison." They explicitly threatened, in front of my face, to outright lie about Zhenevere to the public, vowing to say that Zhenevere abused them, in order to destroy Zhenevere, and to destroy the trust that thousands of students have in her—when in fact their sexual relationship, of more than ten years, had been utterly consensual and deeply transformational for both of them. Zhenevere has overwhelming volumes of letters, art pieces, and emails from them to that effect.
Throughout the day of the attack, in between schizophrenic outbursts of grief, and pronouncements of love, this person redundantly detailed the ways in which, chillingly premeditatedly, they planned to destroy Zhenevere’s life by lying about her in all the places that she is most pristine and most beautiful, and most needed in the world. They also enumerated repeatedly how they planned to troll the internet in order to prevent any opportunity for Zhenevere to teach, perform, interview, and generally share her gifts with the world.
At the same time, they did everything they could to hurt me, including slinging racial slurs at me, such as, “You white fuck bitch,” and, “You white pussy,” and, “You white whore,” and many others. They seemed offended in the extreme simply because I am largely, but not entirely, of caucasian descent—a fact about which I have no more control than does anyone on this earth. This from a person who strategically paints themselves publicly as a staunch anti-racist activist. They also repeatedly degraded me for being a “straight girl,” an accusation as meaningless as it was—and is— absurd, for their jealous rage at me was precisely because I was in love with a woman—their ex-girlfriend.
On the surface, three years later, Zhenevere’s ex-partner has partially achieved what they set out so vehemently to do. They have, indeed, done everything in their power to prevent Zhenevere’s free movement in the world as a teacher, interviewee, artist, and human being. Indeed, there is a single anonymous person, with an anonymous email address, who does troll the internet for any public announcement of Zhenevere—whether an interview, podcast, workshop, etc. This cowardly and obsessed individual then contacts the initiators of the platform and maligns Zhenevere’s reputation with utterly unsubstantiated lies. Then occurs a hinge moment—a cultural moment, I might say—in which that organization’s mettle is challenged for adherence to truth and justice, rather than cowardly fear. Some persons, organizations, and platforms find it inconvenient or risky to stand up for what is right and true in that moment, and they crumble under the lies and accusations of this unnamed person.
It has been indescribably stunning to witness well-established organizations, who espouse exactly what Zhenevere represents—truth, beauty, original thought, spirituality, responsibility, and above all, bravery—simply cave under pressure from an anonymous avatar. Further, as we have navigated what can only be described as cultural tragedies, these organizations, going forward, act in a most cowardly and shamefully avoidant way, failing to account for themselves in any way. And these are people and institutions who claim to uphold the values represented by Zhenevere most steadfastly! Even people and organizations who actually know Zhenevere, and who have gushed enthusiastically about working with her, and who even already knew about the feeble defamation campaign, have caved and then become incommunicado. Truly, this has taught me much about the state of our world and the weakness of character that plagues the human race. It has been a most essential education.
At the same time, because of Zhenevere’s indomitable spirit and capacity to alchemize hatred and trauma, many of her dedicated students may assume that this matter has run its course, for one would imagine a natural decay, in time, of the adamance of a personal hatred like this. But it turns out, in the case of Zhenevere’s ex, one cannot overestimate the sick entrenchment of vengefulness. Despite the fact that Zhenevere’s ex-partner has an ambitious and busy career, and has the highest aspirations to be a famous visual artist who is rewarded handsomely for their work, their campaign of defamation continues. Apparently, neither art, nor peace of mind and soul, are enough motivation to desist from the preoccupation of revenge and destruction of the one whom they had most loved.
Ultimately, I write this follow up testimonial because, in fact, Zhenevere’s ex-partner has not succeeded whatsoever in their final mission. They did not succeed in destroying Zhenevere’s life, or my own. The havoc they have wreaked in our lives has served to make the power of truth resonate more clearly than ever before. It has separated the wheat from the chaff, so to speak, between weak, false people and powerful, true people. The weak ones have excused themselves from our lives, and our lives are better for it. Everything that has happened in the wake of the defamation has been touched with a miraculous kind of power. The prolonged attack has also served as a relentless crucible for strengthening the potency of Zhenevere’s philosophies, and the potency of our lived experience of them. Ultimately, the attack has led to a strengthening of all things good, most importantly the love that this incredible being and I experience for and with each other. To come through the fire, together, is unlike anything imaginable—to distill what really is, what really matters, what one lives for. The yield is immeasurable, and continues to unfold in the most mysterious and exquisite ways. Our life is clarified and purified. We are so grateful.
Laurie Brenner - Zhenevere's Mother
August, 2024
As Zhenevere’s mother, I have watched with horror for years as a tiny handful of individuals have mounted a scurrilous, vicious campaign against her. It is time for me to speak.
I have known my child since the moment “he” [as she was to me then] emerged, wailing, from my body, weighing only 4 lbs 2 oz. I was told my baby would be in the nursery for “several weeks” until [she], as I will refer to her henceforth—though during the time of her childhood she was always my “boy"—reached the requisite 5 pounds and could come home. Ten days after [her] birth, I got an excited call from the head nurse. Unbelievably, my baby had done the impossible, getting to 5 pounds faster than any baby had ever done before. The nurse told me that they had weighed [her] on several scales, because they couldn’t believe it was possible.
You can’t keep a determined baby, or a determined woman, down! Then, as now, my child took an unfair circumstance, surmounted it, and moved powerfully on.
Zhenevere is the kindest, most caring person I have ever known in my 81 years on this planet. Two small illustrations, among many possibilities:
At age 5, decked out in [her] Baltimore Orioles cap, [she] sat in the stands at Oriole Stadium, tears raining down on the hot dog [she] was clutching. Why? Because while the home team was introduced to cheers and applause from the fans, the Minnesota Twins emerged to a chorus of boos and catcalls. Sobbing, [she] said, “I feel so sorry for the Minnesotas." Not the usual response from a kindergarten-aged fan at [her] beloved home team’s ballpark. But her philosophies, which center on the vulnerability of “the other,” were already seeds, there in that stadium.
Years later, as an electrifying star of [her] high school soccer team, lionized by [her] classmates and their parents, Zhenevere organized a meeting at our house. The invitees were young superstars from the two high schools in town, each a hero in some sport, each with the immense power and prestige that comes with that role. The topic, at Zhenevere’s instigation, was: how can we, who have so much influence among our peers and their parents, use our celebrity to foster a culture of kindness, caring, and open-armed inclusion of everyone. Again, not the usual response of the high school hero. This characteristic of using her innate power to focus on the sacred well-being of others, which is a foundation of her philosophies, was already in incubation, there in my living room.
Zhenevere’s defamation comes from a tiny handful of people, led by someone, Zhenevere’s ex-partner, whose unhinged vengefulness is as treacherous and harmful as her truly evil intentions. A couple of years ago, this individual actually texted me, Zhenevere's mother, out of the blue, with the absurd “information” that Zhenevere had been accused by twenty women of heinous humanitarian crimes for which she [Zhenevere] was in the process of being prosecuted. This could not be farther from the truth. Indeed, the distance between this horrific “information” and reality represents a schizophrenic breach between reality and egregious falsehood. Zhenevere’s thousands of students could, and do, testify to her impeccable conduct, over more than 30 years of teaching.
I am an elderly woman, and the sheer evil of that text rocked me to my core, which must have been this truly cruel person’s intention. I have significant cardiac issues, as well as other health challenges. The cruelty and evil of that text, which remains with me, left me breathless then, and leaves me breathless now, as I recall it.
As Zhenevere’s mother, I am here to tell everyone that I celebrate my child for her achievements, yes, but even more for her courage to claim her true self as a woman; to remain kind and loving and compassionate in the face of an unfathomable defamatory campaign. Indeed, I have watched her kindness and compassion increase in direct proportion to the cruelty leveled so unfairly, and so wastefully, against her. I have watched her take an almost mystical responsibility for not becoming in the least like her haters.
The transphobic targeting of her, at a time when major elements in our culture threaten the very lives of trans people, is dangerous. Every one of us needs to fight back, with truth, decency, and determination—not only because I am her mother, but because so many others understand how important her truth, kindness, philosophy, and very being are for this world.
Laurie Brenner
Therese Wolfe - Zhenevere's Former Partner; friend of 25 years
June, 2021
Let me begin by stating that I am very angry, outraged at the ludicrous, harmful, damaging and hurtful falsifications and outright lies being written, on an anonymous website, by certain persons, against Zhenevere Sophia Dao. In my opinion, the anonymity of these allegations is irresponsible and indicative of a total lack of accountability. I pray my testimonial takes all doubt out of anyone’s mind as regards this slander and libel.
I am Zhenevere Sophia Dao’s longest intimate companion. We were romantically together for nearly twelve years, from late 1999–late 2010, and we remained, and remain, deepest friends, until this very moment—a 22 year ongoing friendship. Having literally lived with her for eleven years, in America and in Italy, I simply can no longer sit by in pained silence in the wake of her defamation. I am sickened and outraged that a handful of disgruntled students, and most recently, damagingly, falsely, and insanely ungratefully, Zhenevere’s recent ex-partner, have made a platform for such lies. These lies, such as Zhenevere being abusive and manipulative, or touching students inappropriately in classes, stem, it seems to me, from personal disappointment regarding various kinds of desire for Zhenevere that was not reciprocated or fulfilled. These people are disgustingly taking advantage of Zhenevere’s public visibility to gain leverage for what I imagine (because I cannot know otherwise) to be their personal wounds. Those of us who really know Zhenevere, as friends and/or as students, need to speak out boldly.
I did not meet Zhenevere as a student. When I became her companion, I studied with her, seriously and consistently, in two of her schools, one in Portland, OR, and the other in Italy. I have therefore been in the room with her among thousands of students over time. As her partner and her student, what I have to say, I believe, is of great value to anyone who is confused about Zhenevere because a few of her students, scorned or disappointed, claim that she groped them or that—and this would be laughable if it were not so damaging—she is a caster of evil spells.
I suppose, in a way, all visionary people cast some kind of “spell” because with the force of their being they create unusual potentials for beauty. Was I under a spell for all of those years with Zhenevere? As her closest friend now, am I under a spell? Again, these questions would be laughable if I didn’t know that some people coming across the defamation would actually take seriously the accusations of Zhenevere being a spell-caster. If being loved and befriended without distraction, if enjoying someone’s company—reading, cooking, being in beautiful places together, traveling, working as artists, discussing every aspect of life, working through problems together, tending to each other’s frailties and dreams—if this adds up to being under a “spell” then yes, I was, and am, frankly, admittedly, happily under a spell. But of course the pain of these ridiculous accusations is making me quite angry. For God’s sake, Zhenevere is a visionary person; it is a commonplace that all visionary people cast some kind of spell inasmuch as they imagine humanity to be better than it seems to be. That hope for human beauty is the only kind of “spell” Zhenevere casts. Perhaps the discrepancy between the world as it exists and her visions for a more fulfilled humanity are too much to bear for some small number of her students, and, frustrated by the limitations of their own resources, they blame Zhenevere for their unhappiness and disappointments.
Zhenevere bears an unusual intensity, a rare kind of concentration on profundity that can be intoxicating. She cares so deeply for her students that it can be disarming, and people can and did fall in love with her. I witnessed this happen on numerous occasions, even though we were obviously a couple. Her strategy was simple, and it hasn't changed. She explained to the person who had a crush on her (she identified as male at this time), that so long as the practice was the most important thing, the practice itself would become primary over these personal feelings, because they were not reciprocal, and therefore not acceptable. If that wasn’t possible, Zhenevere would advise that person to seek other venues of practice. But not one of these women turned their feelings of rejection into blatant lies about Zhenevere’s person, as these more recent students have done. Nowadays, it is all too easy to turn personal feelings of rejection into poisonous lies that gain a false validity, precisely because they can be completely devoid of accountability on the internet, where lies multiply with impunity.
I turn now to the lies of Zhenevere’s most recent ex-partner, in light of all I know about Zhenevere. The lie that Zhenevere is abusive is an outrage, and sickens me. It sickens me that anyone who has actually been loved by Zhenevere could invert the truth of their life with Zhenevere, just to hurt her after their breakup. I happen to know that the word “abuse” never was broached by this ex-partner until they found out, many months after their breakup, that Zhenevere had just begun a new relationship. Abuse has never been, and is not, a part of Zhenevere’s nature, and for the record, Zhenevere never abused me—not sexually, emotionally, or physically. Our sexual life was totally consensual. She did nothing but support every aspect of my growth, whether artistic, emotional, or intellectual. And, as a woman living with multiple sclerosis, not only was she never abusive, she cared for me with indescribable attention, tenderness, and love, especially when we lived in Italy, at which time I experienced my most severe relapse, accompanied by an extreme and terrifying exacerbation of symptoms.
Even during and after our breakup, Zhenevere cared for me deeply. She rented another living space, a casita next door to my home, because she could not bear the pain of my pain. That proximity is why we are so close today, because we processed our entire relationship, and dove together into the pain of our breakup relentlessly, a process I called, “deconstructing the house.” To maintain the most profound friendship, through a breakup, and, later, through Zhenevere’s transition to female, indicates to me a commitment to our truth and our hearts that is the absolute opposite of abuse.
Neither does Zhenevere abuse her students. In fact, her sexual boundaries with students are almost unbelievable, given the kind of attention she has received, when she identified as male, and now receives, as a women. Allegations of sexual misconduct in her classes are absolutely preposterous. I have taken hundreds of classes with her, all through the years of our intimate relationship. Never once did Zhenevere touch a student in an inappropriate way. Never once did Zhenevere psychologically manipulate a student. She is a private person disinterested in the dynamics of conventional power. Her sexuality is focused in her monogamous relationships.
In conclusion, I know Zhenevere. I know this woman well: a teacher, a private person, a woman who has always been deeply uncomfortable with her own charisma and the effect it has on people. I know this student of life who is a scholar, poet and writer, artist, horsewoman, deeply committed practitioner, martial artist, blacksmith, this once-man desperately trying to sublimate “his” gender, and finally becoming incapable of being anything but the woman she is. I have lived with her in all of these fields and experiences. For those of you who have not met Zhenevere in person, who are reading this and may have been targeted by a few people’s lies, know this: Zhenevere’s effect on people is enormous. That power of effect, it seems, can cause a small percentage of people around her to make up stories about her when they feel unfulfilled by her, when her sole purpose is to help them fulfill themselves. The various lies about her represent methods of scapegoating personal responsibility, for Zhenevere is everything opposite to these lies. And those of you who know what I am saying because, in one way or another, you were there, alongside me, all of those years, or because you have experienced her truly in more recent years, I encourage you to speak of your experiences in a testimonial here. The untold strangers needing Zhenevere’s teachings need you.
Monica Collu - Student
January, 2023
Hello everyone, my name is Monica and I want to give my testimony on this site to confirm the moral integrity of a person I met, known to us as Maestro Daniel, who is now Zhenevere Sophia Dao. (I am Italian, writing with a translator). The time with [Zhenevere] left a beautiful memory in me. [She] taught many years ago in Italy, precisely on a small Tuscan island, the Island of Elba. [She] left a very strong memory in all [her] pupils and a great sadness in our hearts when [she] left. For years I've tried to get in touch to continue learning tai chi, but it has never been possible. I was very impressed by [her] story, and [her] transformation.
[She] was a great teacher, and when [she] taught [she] was permanently accompanied by Therese, [her] companion. [She] has never had bad behavior towards [her] students. [She] has always been patient, kind and understanding. Even with regard to the economic aspect, [she] has always come to the aid of those who could not pay for [her] lessons. I hope to be able to meet [her] again one day to show [her] all my gratitude. I take the opportunity and send [her] a greeting and a big hug.
Alexandra W - Student
May, 2022
Aloha, I had a strange urge today to look up what was happening in the mogadao community as its been some years since I have been in New Mexico to practice. What I have come across here has made me feel compelled to add to the testimonials of the absolute safety that was held in my time in practice there. First I have to say, thank you Zhenevere for clarifying this. It would have broken my heart to have checked into the community only to have heard that yet another spiritual guide had fallen to the same predictable traps of sex scandal. I probably would not have researched it more, as I have become sadly accustomed to seeing the falls of those entrusted to guide the seeking. I’m sorry that I likely would not have looked further, as I have grown weary of having to grapple with many of my teachers and guides committing the most heinous types of abuses. So by responding you are also preserving the strength of what I learned from my limited time with you. I stumbled across mogadao after feeling deeply disillusioned with the patriarchal spiritual world, hurt from lines crossed by teachers, and weary of being in any kind of community. I point blank asked Zhenevere, Daniel, if he was safe. He, with very intense presence, promised safety. And in my experience of a year or so coming to classes, and a week long immersion on sacred sexuality there was never a point that felt unsafe. In fact many of these kinds of accusations were brought up in the teachings as to how megalomania, pedophillia, lack of correct boundaries occur in the psyche and experience. There was explicit dialogue about what was and was not appropriate. Let me also be transparent and say that I was very captivated my Zheneveres presence. By no means in love, but deeply curious, and I would say being still rather young, still seeking to be seen, recognized, and special as compensation for an overwhelming feeling of unworthiness. Its not an easy dance I imagine for a deeply intuitive and present teacher to navigate the invisible strings that students attempt to pull. I never had any imagination that Zhenevere would ever actually notice me in a real world sort of relationship way, but let me try to be clear. The point I’m trying to get across is that I would have been one of those girls who would have been at risk for a teacher that DID cross boundaries, and what my experience was with Zhenevere is that NEVER was any boundary crossed. I remember distictly having an adjustment made in a yoga class, and feeling the sensation of “yay he chose me to adjust, touched MY body” (a softly hilarious ego reaction as seen from a decade of maturity later) and within seconds Zhenevere saying to the class something like "all of you should know that when I touch a specific student it is for a specific need and NOT because they are receiving special attention.” Point blank, finished. I remember feeling as opposed to shame of my moments before celebration of specialness, SAFTEY. I remember distinctly feeling seen and safe. I can honestly recount many such moments that became deeply part of my bones - blatant discussion around boundaries, questions raised about how we sanctify people like Ghandi who slept naked in a bed with a teen to prove his celibacy (and the insane trauma that was likely caused from that lack of awareness), concepts and truths and transparency that I have never come across before. I remember being in a group reading and picking up on quite a bit of feminine competition among certain members of the group and I remember Zhenevere shutting it down energetically pretty quickly. I understand I’m not an insider, have zero personal relationship with Zhenevere, but I must say, I never felt, saw, or experienced anything but a visionary teacher pushing students to become more of who they really are. Finally, WOW! What a healing depth your life is continuing to take. To face defamation, and rise in truth. To speak humbly and vow your humanity again on stage before us all is an act of bravery. Thank you for not quietly slipping into hermitage leaving us to doubt our experiences in practice. And thank you for recognizing missteps made in your discernment that we can trust you are deeply offering something real. I'm sure many treasures will be unveiled by this unenviable process you are in, and I hope that they shed light on the intensity that surrounds the teacher/student dynamics. Blessings to all.
Sunny Smyth - Teacher
May, 2021
From the moment I stepped into my first MogaDao class with Zhenevere eleven years ago, I knew I had found what my soul had been praying for: a careful, somatic practice of qigong and yoga that was infused with a coherent philosophy that would fully engage my intellect and spirit. From a young age I had been searching for sincere teachings that would integrate the power of my sexuality with my spiritual yearning. In Mogadao I found a practical methodology embedded within a unique atmosphere of both safety and exploration that enabled me to become more sensitive and sensually alive while connected to my inner truth.
Having been present at every Sexuality class or training over the past 11 years, I have experienced Zhenevere’s radical faith in the innocence and essential goodness of sexuality, which butts right up against historical and societal norms. I can attest unequivocally that all of the guided forms and practices we engaged in took place within a structured and consensual pedagogical environment, and that allegations of groping or sexual impropriety are patently false. In retrospect, however, I have come to understand that there was an underestimation of the psychic distortions that can occur when teachings around cultivating procreative energy coincide with deep wounds in the psyche. In a few, rare individuals, the immensity of the wounding was beyond the scope of the work to address and ideally, should have been explored in a therapeutic context. In other words, although the container that was created within the classroom was safe and nurturing, the fact that individuals needed to grapple with a past or a potential future that was inherently not safe once they left the sanctity of the classroom, triggered an emotional reaction that eventually led to some of the lies and half-truths that have been circulating in the infosphere.
In the past, I had been burned by gurus and New Age teachers; however in Zhenevere, I found a wise and knowledgeable teacher with great integrity, meaning one who embodies what they teach and is not interested in the trappings of power that come from being in such a role. Any difficult or complex situations that arose within the interpersonal dynamics of the community of students and teachers were always carefully examined and if there were situations to learn from, then changes were made from what was learned.
As a staff member for 10 of the past 11 years, I see how the many administrative changes around scheduling of classes and the teacher training program were quite destabilizing for some of the participants and led to discontent within the MogaDao community. Many of the changes were sincere attempts to accommodate Zhenevere’s artistic life within her commitment to steward the tradition, create a rich and comprehensive training program that was do-able for both local and out-of-town students, as well as keep previously certified teachers current with the forms and ethos of a “living” tradition. Most unfortunately, as an administration, we were not always successful in accomplishing those goals.
I know for a fact that Zhenevere’s classes and teachings have had an incredibly positive impact on thousands of students over her 30 year tenure of teaching, not to mention that they have been literally life-changing for so many others. It is with immense sadness that I now witness her resignation from teaching as I am aware that there are so many more individuals who won’t have the great opportunity and blessing that I have had.
Antonella Nardi - Student
June, 2022
Hello, I’m an Italian student/practitioner of Mythosomatic yoga, qigong, Daosim and Post-Daoist philosophy and Jing Retrieval for over 12 years, with the teaching of maestra Zhenevere, and thanks to her I can say that this has deeply changed my life and has given me the hope of a new world that is still possible! My experience in these years, also of sincere friendship with maestra Zhen, has enriched me in soul and spirit. The sacredness of the practice continuously supports me in my life,—also if it is 10 years since our maestra returned to Italy (after having spent 3 years with her in Italy). I just have to say thanks so much to our maestra for her dedication in teaching—serious and unique—and, with deep gratitude to maestra Zhen, I leave these few words to describe to all of you what my heart feels right now! An embrace for all, from Gubbio, Italy.
Thomas Jaggers - Teacher
I first began my study of taiji, qigong, and Traditional Chinese Medicine in England in the mid-1990's. Over the years I studied with various teachers, but never stuck with any of them. Without being able to articulate it, I always felt there was some depth and some deeper purpose to the practices that was missing. I met Zhenevere in 2012 when a friend recommended that I attend a men's workshop. Before signing up for the workshop, I went to a class at the Railyard to make sure that I felt the teacher was of integrity and had something to offer. From that first class I had no doubt - she was of the utmost integrity and most certainly had something to offer. What I had been missing in all my previous years of study and practice was present, and abundantly so. Zhenevere's synthesis of physical practice and reverence for the body, a profound and evolutionary understanding of classical Daoism and Traditional Chinese Medicine, and the incorporation of an incredible breadth and depth of knowledge and understanding of western psychology, culture, literature, and poetry brought alive the practices in ways I had never experienced before. I understood why and how qigong could influence my whole life, from my physical well-being and improvement, to my mental and emotional well-being and improvement, and to a much deeper and embodied sense of my own soul's longings and purpose in life, all the way through to ritual engagement with the cosmos.
From that moment on I dedicated more and more of my time and focus to study and practice with Zhenevere, immersing myself in all aspects of the MogaDao tradition. And nine years later I am still fully engaged, still learning, and still deepening my practices and study.
The teachings are profound. MogaDao Qigong provides a physical architecture through which we can experience our own destiny and the deepest longings we are here to embody, free of any dogma or strictures. The philosophy of Post-Daoism offers the clearest and most accurate (according to my experience and perception of life) ontological framework I have ever come across. The Depth Sexuality work elevates human sexual experience and potential to its rightful place at the height of intimacy and vulnerability, as well as understanding the potential tragedy of wounding, trauma, and abuse that is so prevalent in our society. And the Heartmind Warrior training takes on the necessary questions of political and social engagement that far too many privileged spiritual traditions and individuals choose to turn away from.
Zhenevere herself creates an atmosphere of study and learning that leaves the student free to set their/her/his own course of self-directed study at the same time as she is bountifully generous with her knowledge, her insight, and her support. The atmosphere is one of complete safety and integrity. In almost ten years of study I have never seen those boundaries of safety or integrity broken. I speak from a place of personal experience because in such a long period of intense study and colleagueship with Zhenevere, she and I have had differences of opinion at times. I have always felt completely free to voice any difference of opinion directly to her, and have always been met by an openness of heart and mind on her part, such that we have been able to talk through our differences and find common and deeper, more trusting ground in our relationship.
The gauntlet thrown down by the MogaDao tradition is challenging. You will be invited to re-evaluate much that you likely consider as given, concerning your physical practice and training, your philosophical understanding of life, your relationship with your emotions, what you understand by "spirituality" and "spiritual practice", and how you perceive and understand society and culture. But the rewards are far greater than the challenge, for you will be given the opportunity to uncover a much richer, more embodied, more soulful, more engaged experience of life that you could have imagined, one that is vivified by poetry, eros, philosophy, and a community of kindred souls.
Sherry Lewis - Student
I was beautifully surprised and brought more alive, brimming with joy after my first classes with Zhenevere. I felt like I'd come home to something I didn’t realize I was longing for; didn’t know existed. It felt magical and spoke truth to my body and heart.
The profound movements filled with archetypal wisdom, attuned to the body’s inner rhythms, fed my spirit while strengthening my body. The somatic shifting deep within leaves me more whole and in tune with my authentic, divine self. After decades of other personal growth; (physical, spiritual, psychological) Zhenevere's teaching now takes me further, in profundity and life-filling practice as it asks me to go deeper into my internal truth of who I am, what I’m here for, and how to live that truth honestly, with compassion and giving the gifts I was born for.
2020, during the pandemic, a time of uncertainty, upheaval and isolation, Zhenevere, for the first time ever, offered her teaching online; providing gifts of hope, healing and connection. Our international group of students was sustained and uplifted. What a privilege and blessing to participate in this teaching and with this group.
Zhenevere is an inspirational example of living her own inner truth by listening deeply and practicing faithfully through every life circumstance. She lives deep integrity, compassion and respect in ways and at levels I’ve never seen before. The body of work she has developed is a gift, a treasure and a clarion call back to internal peace and sanity.
I am so grateful to have discovered Zhenevere and the beautiful work she teaches. I shall apply these practices and principles for the rest of my life. They are foundational in living a full, healthy, authentic life, true to myself and my soul's purpose and blueprint in life.
Eve Bradford - Teacher
The truth is really quite simple: I am more truly myself, and more fulfilled to be so, because of MogaDao and the careful, care-filled guidance of Zhenevere Sophia Dao.
When I first came to MogaDao for a week long immersion, I was in a uniquely difficult, bordering on crisis, place in my life. As I began practicing this Qigong, I could palpably feel trauma and grief metabolizing in my body. By the end of the week, it was as though a film had been cleared from my vision—as a deeply empathic person, I was seeing clearly for the first time, among many other things, the ways I had been confusing the experience of meeting the needs of others with the experience of having my own needs met and identifying with others’ perceptions of me. This clear-seeing illuminated distinct shifts that needed to occur in my life for my own health and well-being. This was very intimidating to me, because these were significant changes in a very full life. At the close of that intensive, Zhen gave each of us a specific practice to continue to work with, and I continued to do that perfectly intuitively prescribed form daily, and through that practice was able to find the courage, trust and self-worth to make these seemingly impossible shifts.
Over the last 4 years of study and training, I have continued to feel invited into a deeper and deeper intimacy with my own being that has resulted in much healthier, thriving relationships (including the first long-term, committed, mutually nurturing intimate relationship of my adult life), an ability to hold clear, respectful boundaries and, therefore, to also be able to offer a genuine, generous availability that previously alluded me because of a lack of clear boundary.
I do not put Zhenevere on a pedestal. Due to my position on staff, and our closeness as collaborators and friends, I know intimately her struggles and her blind spots, and I speak with her honestly and consistently about these, in ways that most of those who have leveled complaints towards her have not had the care or the courage to do. I have watched her many times slow down and listen closely to very direct and challenging feedback. Sometimes she directly integrates it, and sometimes she does not, but she always listens. I have not agreed with all of her choices, and she knows this, and we are only the closer for it. And amidst it all, I trust her integrity utterly as a teacher and a mentor, because I trust myself, and I trust my own experiences and capacities of perception, as one who was present in every public situation that has been characterized within the defamations, and as one who she has had every opportunity to manipulate or control and never has, but only cared deeply for the health and specific necessities of my own soul.
Throughout my life, I have felt the call to engage in the work of sexual healing and liberation but have never felt the trust and honest draw into any of the contexts I came across where that work was being offered in the world, as I always felt a lack of integrity, a superficial approach to the depth of ecstasy and wound and/or a limiting approach to gender that felt untrue to my own lived experience. My many experiences within the atmosphere and teachings of MogaDao Depth Sexuality have been of deep homecoming, profound inspiration, healing and a restored faith in the natural inclinations and intuitive understandings of the foundational nature of Eros to the soulful life that originally called me into this field of practice and work. Never have I experienced such intentionally cultivated safety and integrity, which has allowed for the responsible risks that are absolutely necessary for actual healing and growth to occur. I have been continually educated and inspired by ZSD’s meticulous guidance through the nuance and subtlety of Eros and its essential relationship to vitality, creativity, spirituality and activism. I am honored to have made this work the center of my vocational life and hold immeasurable gratitude for the impeccable support and guidance I have received from Zhenevere on this path.
Her encouragement and faith in my true calling in many crucial moments has helped me to find that same faith in myself and my offerings.
As a teacher of this work, I have seen countless lives nourished, resourced, liberated from painful conditioning and called into authentic power by the Mythosomatic Qigong, Depth Sexuality practices, and groundbreaking inversions of Post-Daoist Philosophy. My own lifelong dissatisfaction with the mediocrity and amnesia of contemporary culture, with the tragic failure of inherited gender norms and with the tepid acceptance of Queer Ontology in even many self-identified progressive contexts has found its mythic purpose through this work.
I celebrate the integrity, originality, necessity and generosity of these teachings and practices. It is with quiet joy and abundant gratitude that I hold Zhenevere Sophia Dao as mentor, collaborator and friend.
Jaye Marolla - Teacher
My first experience of Zhenevere Sophia Dao, preceded her physical body, like so many others called to this tradition, and was initiated by my preliminary study of Qigong, afforded by a student's son who had studied with Zhenevere. The practices stayed with me, incredibly, for 14 years, until I had the opportunity to move to Santa Fe and begin study with Zhenevere in person. I knew through my very first conversation with Zhenevere that I had found a phenomenally unique individual, who encompassed an unparalleled and diversified knowledge of rigorous physical practice, original philosophy, embodied mysticism and deeply held integrity.
Equally the palpable sincerity, wisdom and mastery cultivated within the MogaDao community of practitioners led me to feel confident in my decision to begin an immersive study trajectory. In the past four years, I have experienced the deepest growth of my life. I have been transformed by the teachings of Zhenevere Dao. And additionally, transformed by witnessing the growth of my cherished peers and friends, by witnessing the growth of Zhenevere, and by my own willingness to be continually broken open by the innermost places in my life that need permission to express, to explore, to heal, and to move deeply into my own felt sense of accountability. For this I am undeniably humbled and beautifully empowered. I am honored to call myself a MogaDao instructor, and to sit with a growing collective of diverse students and teachers who value the ethics, and the necessity of self-responsibility, and a shared profundity of experiential learning within the emergent contexts of Post-Daoism.
A. G. - Student
Real people don't fit on pedestals...where imperfections, guilt and limitations are unknown obstacles...real people wobble, tremble, make mistakes...and take a lifetime if necessary to know what their heart beats for... we are all flesh and blood, and we all seek an oasis in the deepest desert that lives in us, to cure our own thirst...we search for answers, and there are still those who are searching for the questions, knowing how challenging the enigma of Life is. Sometimes in the most distant and unlikely fountain the memories awaken, the paths narrow, and the mathematics of life that seemed to us a difficult equation to solve, becomes light and clear, and the keys begin to appear, opening doors to an inner autonomy, freedom and responsibility. It is easier to seek in others what we lack in ourselves...it is always easier to go than to search... I was too much, I've ran, I've demanded, I've lost myself .... and I only got tired... we are all animals of the night, obscure in many of our emotions, free from the eyes of the world and authentic in our own solitude. We are all learning, some at a fast pace, others at a slow one, but we will all get there.... Sooner or later, each one in his own time... To deny the marks of life and those who have entered them, is to deny the right to recognize ourselves. "There is no sun without shade, and it is essential to know the night" - Albert Camus I recognized that I am strong and fragile, distant and close, cold and warm.... and I THANK those who gave me space to BE, a roof to shelter from my fears and Vision to look for me... Thank you Zhenevere for being the patience I didn't have, and for teaching me the importance of time and the wisdom of silence... and for training people, who are also teachers now, that remind me the importance of time, willingness and patience (Eve Bradford). In a whisper from the wilderness to the world... Thank you
Carl Baccellieri - Teacher
My experience of practicing in the vast techne of MogaDao, of studying the emerging philosophy of post-Daoism, and of training personally with Zhenevere Sophia Dao has been transformational in my life. I’ve become more centered in my own authenticity; I’ve cultivated a nuanced and embodied self-awareness; I’ve come to see through limitations and into possibilities I’d nearly given up on. Have I been stretched outside of my comfort zone? Yes. Thankfully. And always within an atmosphere of encouragement to answer the call to become, in this brief and precious life, the human I feel I was born to be. As someone who works in the field of human growth and transformation, I consider myself honored to have had the opportunity to study directly with Zhenevere. As many others have experienced over the decades of her teaching career, she inspires with her presence as much as her teachings, and she can become a lodestar for those who yearn for deep transformation. This has been my experience, and our relationship has moved through different phases as I’ve stepped more and more fully into my own expanded sense of identity. Today I consider her a dear friend. It’s also been the case that some people, and I’ve witnessed this with an almost painful predictability, over-index to Zhenevere in a way that can both interrupt their own growth trajectory, and also cause distortion in their understanding of the nature of their relationship with her. This is the lens through which I view the controversies with former students that have emerged over the years. I know that this has been a painful learning process for Zhenevere, and has contributed in some ways to her decision to step away from teaching. While this is a lost opportunity for new generations of students, I know that it will free her for the new artistic direction she is taking in her life and work, including (hopefully!) new written works on post-Daoism. What happens from here will largely be determined by the teachers of the work and the earnestness of those students who apply these practices to their own personal transformation. I look forward to that journey, and to sharing this most important and beautiful work in the world.
Ananda Zambrano - Teacher
Regarding the allegations against Zhenevere, I cannot but fall on my own experience at Mogadao and personal interactions with her. In 2019 there were multiple classes offered every day, at least 5 days a week for the entire year, taught by Zhenevere - I attended every single one of them. Throughout the whole year, my body would be taken over by an overwhelming feeling of being at the right place at the right time - I will never forget that new sensation of trusting myself so thoroughly. The orienting experience of coming back to myself as well as the disorienting experience of realizing I had forgotten myself in the past and I would continue to be disoriented as I brought my head to my body and heart. This experience would become a recurring phenomenon throughout my time at Mogadao, the reason I moved to Santa Fe.
A pivotal moment in realizing the place of the Mogadao practices within my own personal sphere came at the time of the initial allegations against Zhenevere's integrity, at the beginning of 2020. My experience of Zhenevere as a wonderfully charismatic teacher, someone who commands attention and authority, has a mystical connection to the numinous, and who paid attention to the subtleties of my being, while also being a highly sensual person, caused me to become emotionally invested in her, seek her approval, and be at her service for anything she needed. (Here, I must clarify that my experience of Zhenevere’s sensuality was always reliable and with boundaries.) So, when those allegations arose, it became a deep reckoning of admitting to myself, firstly that my own behavior was exalted because of the spiritual and existential context in which we were in relation. And secondly, because of that context, I saw the subtle ways in which I was handing over my power to her and losing myself in order to gain the love and approval I so desperately sought from myself and from life - from an elusive objective perspective outside of myself. Mostly, I wanted to have the same authority over myself that Zhenevere has over herself, and, unconsciously, at the sight of such arduous work, I handed it all back to her. Therefore, the image of her was at the wim of my ego - I loved her if I felt in control of my life, and I hated her when I wasn't in control, or didn't understand, or simply didn't know. After I became aware of this phenomenon, it became not a question of Zhenevere's personality - whether she believed herself to be a guru or enjoyed idolization, or even whether I liked her at all - it became about the teachings and the forms that were transforming me, that were giving me a center of gravity. Even at that time of reckoning, where anything could be true, I realized I chose her as a teacher because she was reminding me of who I was. From my perspective, the forms she birthed and the innovations she undertook from powerfully awake ancestors across this Earth, are beyond her now - and for that I am thankful to my peers at Mogadao. I hold tightly, and truly, the pain and grief of our entire community - my experience is my own, and I can only affirm that pain and grief insofar as the empathy I can feel in my heart, and the understanding that in our collective attempt to disorient ourselves in order to orient to own truth, power, and authenticity, there is a lot of room for confusion, projections, and wound that need to be supported, however, my empathy and understanding is not from a shared experience of being coerced or manipulated, for my experience with Zhenevere was of an emergent woman who enjoyed teaching me ways I could love myself.
Diane Chase - Teacher
Today, as I was preparing the paperwork to offer Mogadao Qigong classes at a local Senior Fitness Center a huge wave of continual gratitude came over me as I realized yet again how beneficial have been my 25 years of Qigong studyand training with Zhenevere Sophia Dao. My life has been completely inspired from our first encounter in Taos in 1995 to the present day of continued studies.
I knew her first as Daniel Villasenor and have been able to be a supportive and caring witness to this extraordinary person’s creative, poetic, personal, intellectual and artistic journey in her life and how this knowing, this friendship and learning has influenced so importantly and meaningfully my own path and direction.
Without the beautiful forms and incredible depths of understanding that are so integral to Zhenevere’s being, teaching and sharing of her somatic creations through her own life journey, my life would be empty, void of those subtle and insightful awakenings that come through quiet and tillness in one’s core, through poetry of words, poetry of contemplative and expressive movement and awareness that lifts the soul, engages one with the elements and fortifies the body, mind and spirit.
For this person whose integrity and exuberance and willingness to create and share on many levels I attest as being of the highest caliber and of very great benefit to so very many, many people over the years.
SueJ - Teacher
I began to study qigong with Zhenevere in 2005, in a precursor to today's school. When that school concluded, she asked us as a student body that if any of us were planning to continue the work, to continue to practice not because of her, the teacher, but because of the practices themselves. The practices have evolved into the richness of MogaDao Post-Daoist techne and philosophy. Zhenevere remains a focused, patient, and compassionate teacher. Even as the techne have multiplied and become more challenging to the body or the psyche, Zhenevere has created within class space and within workshops a respectful and safe container in which to make those personal inward or outward journeys.
Don Freeman - Teacher
I have known Zhenevere as a teacher since 2004, when I first began studying Morning Medical Qigong and Tai Chi in Portland, Oregon. I went on to attend almost every class that she taught from 2017 to 2020, including the Guan Teacher Training Program. The training at the MogaDao Institute was one of the most significant and meaningful periods of my life in terms of helping me to explore my life and relationship to my body so that I could find my own way. The classes in yoga, qigong, martial arts, poetry, meditation, sexuality, and philosophy were professional, intellectual, and physically demanding while always being conducted in an atmosphere of safety and integrity.
Training with Zhenevere over the years has impacted my life in so many ways, making it more soulful and richer. I had no idea what qigong was when I first showed up at class in 2004. Years of sitting at a computer had left my body stiff and my overall health poor. The qigong and yoga classes helped to bring me back into my body and to unblock parts of my personality that had been frozen. What I learned enabled me to flourish psychologically and physically and to increase my energy and aliveness. With Zhenevere I was consistently presented with a role model who asked the tough questions about life and always encouraged me to read, learn, and look within. The tools and practices built faith in my own life and soul without dogmatism or coercion of any sort. As a result, I have begun to realize my potential as a human being.
One of my main reasons for moving to Santa Fe, New Mexico, in 2017 was to train with the MogaDao community in Jingshen Gungfu and attend the Heartmind Warrior Seminars. At MogaDao, I found the Jingshen Gungfu martial arts to have a unique blend of fierceness, discipline, humility and tenderness, forming part of what I recognized as a rare and unique environment. The Heartmind Warrior Seminars held in the evenings after the physical training during the day were especially important for my intellectual growth. As the group gathered to discuss and read works by Meister Eckhart, Carl Jung, Ralph Waldo Emerson, and Emily Dickinson, the combination of lectures and discussion served to balance the body-centered practices of yoga, qigong, and martial arts and led me to a more fulfilling life.
Zhenevere’s teaching, with its distinctive blend of spirituality, philosophy, literature, and mythopoetics has sweeping implications for the body and mind and the societies in which we live. For these reasons studying at MogaDao has not been easy but I have grown and transformed in ways I am forever grateful for.
Willow Ruth - Teacher
I moved to Santa Fe in 2018, quite frayed from un-healed developmental and biographical traumas, low self-esteem, and a desperation to feel and be fed by my own life force and passion. Within a month of arriving, fortuitous winds swept me through the doors of the Mogadao institute. Meeting Zhenevere Sophia Dao and the teachings of Post-Daoism came as a surprise; I wasn’t looking for a teacher and I didn’t know how much my soul needed this intellectual, spiritual, and physical challenge. As a counseling/psychology graduate student, I fell in love with Five-Realms theory and this cyclical, elemental way of approaching pathology and harmony. Post-Daoism also offered me a unique lens through which to understand trauma and the myriad ways we become disconnected from our life force energy. Through devoted practice to the various Mogadao techne, I’ve been on a profoundly embodied journey of rebuilding the connection to my own procreative power.
In the past three years of study, I have become softer, fiercer, more rooted, more amenable to risk, and more capable of containing the breadth of emotion that a soulful life incurs. I have learned to tend and feed the imagination as fundamental to the healing process, and have grown a deep faith in desire as the true north of personal destiny. I have developed increasing resiliency, psychological flexibility, and a clarified sense of accountability and purpose. I am learning to turn the compost of past pains and shames into the soil for the seeds of my offering to the world. I am forever gratefully indebted to my teacher, who—by her very embodiment—raised the bar on what I thought to be possible in my own life.
Brian Roberts - Teacher
I stumbled into MogaDao at the beginning of 2019 during a deep depression—wrestling with debilitations from Lyme's disease (fatigue, nerve damage, brain fog)—disoriented in life. Years of spiritual study and practice seemed to have abandoned me in my crisis... even leaving me feeling ashamed of having the illness. Somehow, I had failed.
My first visit to MogaDao was a lecture on sexuality by Zhenevere. By the end of the class, I was awake in my soul. Zhenevere's ability to unwind the troubled territory of sexuality and spirituality filled me with hope. The clarity of what sexuality is with respect to the soul—coming from a transgendered women—allowed me to believe in something more than my cultural, bipolar view of puritans verses pornography (neither one felt right).
I wanted more. And I was astounded at the breadth of topics that Zhenevere traversed: spirituality, trauma, sexuality, philosophy, religions, depth psychology, sociopolitical activism, poetry. And just as important as the intellectual pursuits, was physical practice: meditation, qigong, yoga and martial arts. Moving and imaging the body as resonate with soulful archetypes—such a beautiful understanding of "practice" for life.
In my troubled condition, I attended as many classes as I could and began to hear truths about the challenges of my illness, often leaving me with tears of relief as misunderstandings of my trauma washed away... Zhenevere debunked my belief that good health equals good spirituality. Instead, a healthy spirit actually includes the bravery to be in illness, to learn how to develop new resources. She also helped me realize how lopsided my view of productivity was: I unconsciously thought it shameful to be unproductive (...and in illness, there's a lot of not being productive). What a relief it was for me to understand that being unproductive is just as nourishing to the soul as being productive. Whew.
Over time, I began to understand that my sense of failure wasn't me, but rather the failure of past spiritual teachings and social conditioning. Zhenevere's Post-Daoism philosophy has helped me understand that struggle in the shadows (or "shade" as she calls it), like inferiority, vulnerability, suffering, solitude and dissolution, are just as important to my soul as the feel-good phases like innocence, passion, caring, discernment and surrender.
I continue to mentally digest and physically practice with passion and gratitude. My fatigue, brain fog and depression have faded. My sense of power, formerly based on a strong physical body, has broadened to include fragility. I'm beginning to mentally and physically believe in the beauty of my life... again... but in a much different way, pre illness.
Thank you Zhenevere for being who you are. For teaching, supporting, challenging, caring, reflecting, and inspiring. It is tricky territory to be an example of how to long for one's soul, without becoming the object of that longing... but I think you do it well.
Mae Newcombe - Student
I first met Zhenevere Sophia Dao in the fall of 1997 right after I had moved from San Francisco to Taos, a casualty of the corporate world and on a search for something I could feel good about. I didn’t have the words for it then, but I was trying to find my heart and soul. I first met Zhen as Daniel Villasenor, an English teacher at UNM-Taos. Soon after, I learned she was also a Qigong teacher. I had no idea what that was.
I knew from our first phone call, when I inquired about her English classes, that something was different about her, and that I felt deeply seen during that phone call, even though we had not even met. Then her qigong classes rocked my world. But one doesn’t get a gift of a lifetime – which is what her Qigong is - without the universe requiring some inner work and growth. And the work, of course, is all about you. Every morning, I’d cry before going to qigong class, because I knew something huge was happening, and it was scary, like falling off a cliff or into the abyss, and yet there was no way I could have not gone to those classes. They were the unequivocal something I could feel good about. After the very first Qigong class, my life was infused with meaning and aliveness; literally I had a brand new life. I’m not trying to be poetic or exaggerate for effect here. That was a literal fact. One class.
During the course of the one year I studied with her, both in Qigong and in her Sacred Poetry class, I learned so much about myself, about teaching and about the universe, really. She gave me and so many others, the sun, moon and stars on a silver platter.
Being around Zhen opened my heart. I hadn’t felt so emotionally safe in years, and that container made me feel safe around others. She honored my feelings with such grace and respect, and never once, ever wavered from full integrity and appropriate boundaries. In fact, being around her was the first time in my life that I felt what a boundary was. And the first I got to see what integrity looked like. And I know without a shadow of a doubt that integrity and accountability have always been non-negotiable pillars of Zhen’s teaching and life.
What I received from Zhen almost 25 years ago has informed my life in countless ways and continues to even now. Her warmth and loving heart are a gift to all who are lucky enough to cross paths with her. I am so glad to add to this outpouring of love and gratitude for her many gifts to us and for who she is.
Chris Keller - Student
Zhenevere has shown me how to make my life so incredibly worth living. I have learned from her how to be a decent, kind and loving human being to a degree that I did not know existed before she showed me. Through her teachings she has shown me the imperative importance of how to not forsake how much we all truly need connection and one another; human-to-human and human connected to our Mother Earth. Zhenevere has shown me what a woman standing in her inviolable power looks like—Feels Like—and IS. She has graciously taught me how to whole heartedly embrace the paradox alive within me. Her teachings have liberated my life. Truly. I now, long to make love to my life and longingly anticipate my life making love to me. She has taught me how to be a decent, authentic human being who is not scared of her shadow, but rather embraces it with wide swept arms. I am now; thanks to her, a person - decent and true, who wants to LIVE a life worthy of the gifts that a sacred life brings. I wish to walk a life connected, intimately, with the sacredness of ALL.
David Borton - Student
I first became aware of MogaDao in 2017, enrolling in a depth sexuality series for male-identified people, who happened in this case to be all cisgender. I have lived a sheltered life in this dimension, so at first I had some questions and hesitation about “what goes on in there.” But my worries quickly evaporated as I found that teacher Zhenevere Sophia Dao, and her students, who were all men of rare integrity, intentionally maintained a relaxed environment free, of any kind of pressure to say or do anything. This class was of great value to me. I still have a keen interest in MogaDao’s Depth Sexuality work and have participated in various intensives and classes, but I have branched out into the other MogaDao “techne” which all feed each other in a well-balanced orchestration. I have derived particular benefit from the Qigong, Yoga, and martial arts practices. I have always been interested in mysticism, comparative religion and philosophy, and I find the thinking and methods to be sensible, insightful, fresh and profound. And they are inspiring!
Someone new to MogaDao might at first find it disturbing that words like “queer” are used or that sexuality is discussed unapologetically without filters, or that openly gay and transgender people of all stripes are celebrated and centralized. Some might be troubled that the teachings are not static and often transgress the boundaries of inherited Daoism or Traditional Chinese Medicine or take apart, then philosophically and imaginatively reassemble, religious perspectives. It may not be for everyone, but I think the dynamic nature of MogaDao and its challenges to old ways of thinking are among its core attractions. And in all the classes I have taken over the last three years there always is a safe container for authentic questioning and risk-taking.
Emilie Brough - Student
“ How am I to train the Power in me”
Chuang Tzu—The Inner Chapters
I was fortunate to study qi gong, depth sexuality, yoga and meditation with Zhenevere Dao while the Mogadao Institute was still held in the Railyard Performance Center. Not only did these practices regulate my physical health but they deepened my abilities as an acupuncturist to see and treat my most complex patients. Most memorably, Zhenevere gave a definition of illness as “the death of unconscious health” in a workshop that I have since shared in countless encounters with both patients and students in my integrative palliative care clinics and trainings. Her elegant and poetic frame of the Eastern Medical paradigm join with an exquisite sensory awareness and contemplative depth that make her an extraordinary practitioner and teacher to whom I am most grateful.

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